Here we go again - is it art if you use a tool that does the drudgery for you? IMHO - that depends on whether it's art ;o) Good ideas and creative vision has little to do with whether or not you can handle a brush, a wacom or a mouse. Just for the record : the images in the accompanying pic span a decade starting with traditional tools, moving thru Painter, and ending with Poser. I can do PICTURES with all those tools - I'm still no ARTIST, because I have no particular vision or ideas (working on it desperately, though ;o) ). As for the item that seeems to have spurred this thread - adding a touch of magic to a boring, uninspiring pic, IMHO, just means you have a magically boring and uninspiring pic. I won't claim I know what art is, I'm still trying to figure it out - just wanted to put in my 0.2 before this thread (like many others) discourages some of the start-ups who just might have real artistic vision that Poser can set free.