"Momcat I did not say "Anyone who thinks 3D art is easy because we don't create every single component ourselves, or thinks that the software does everything for you so therefore it isn't really art...really doesn't have any idea what it involves." Again please do not misquote me and try reading before you respond." I was not quoting you, therefore, I could not have misquoted you. Please do not accuse me of doing such and try reading before you respond. You may be trying to get one point across, but the way you do it implies something else entirely. Your post implies that purchasing all of these items is all that is required of the artist, and that no further skill is now required. that, in essense, anyone can use these items and call themselves an artist, without involving any of that nasty blood, sweat and tears, that "real" artists put into their work. This seems to be what bothers you. I could be wrong, but I call it as I see it. I think your focus is misdirected at the tools an artist uses. Art goes beyond ones tools. I happen to think that a great many of the artists here are stuck. Their images are technically excellent, but they lack soul, and quite frankly, many of them look like variations of the same theme. These artists have all influenced eachother so heavily, that it becomes difficult to tell one from another. I often find myself going from image to image in the galleries and seeing the same lifeless (though stunningly executed)images recreated over and over again. I would be more concerned with the stagnation of original creativity than I would be with the use of purchased tools.