Thanks, JeffH. You might have included

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for that matter. That's where I first hashed it out with a bunch of you Renderosity habitues that the Poser unit was 8 feet. (Though I sympathize with geep, whose slightly shorter version, though without authority, brings all the figures even closer to U.S. average height.) However, whether you accept geep's measure or the 8 foot measure, the new P5 measure of 8.6 is surely a mistake. Posette a six-footer? Don 6'5". Come now. Anyway, thanks Jeff. This does confirm that others are seeing the same new measure in P5. Bill Adams