I think that's to be expected, after all, if you load posette in P4, with her default texture, and some hair from the default library and render or move it around, you'll get alot faster results and render than you will by loading vicky into P4, with one of those ultra high-res texture and bump maps, trans-mapped hair, and a dozen lights all with shadows turned on. It would be nice to have all the new features, with all the old speed, but it rarely works out that way. But I do know what you mean about the speed,P5 is kind of like running P4 on my old laptop :)