No Tisa, YOU miss the point! Let me see if I can lower the discussion to a level you can understand... (ratcheting word level to what MIGHT be something you can understand) Give a few ready-made props, a texture, Vicky (for example), lighting, and poses to 10 people. Let them do something with those items. Then let them post a picture. I am positive some will produce something that sucks and others will produce something that shows artistic talent. It's that simple. Now, just because the people who did well with the "tools" that were given to them doesn't mean they aren't artists. Besides the technical requirements needed to move things in Poser, one needs the ability to "see". And that's what people are talking about. I consider myself an above-average photographer. I took classes in it in college. We all had good cameras. We all had assignments. Nature awaited and some "saw" it and others did not. The people who "saw" it were more artistic than those who did not. Even though NOTHING was required other than camera and film (things "given" to them). I was amazed at the angles and ideas that people used to complete the assignment. NOW, having said that... Yes, the person who can make textures, props, etc. AND put them all into a pleasing render are more of an artist than those who pick those things up and use them equally as well. Some might say the ability to make props and textures, etc. is more technical than artistic. I wish I could do all of it, too. I can hardly do any of it, though. BUT, I don't pick on anyone or make nebulous generalized remarks like you do, either. You see, I can appreciate artistic endeavors no matter what the artist was supplied with. My advice to you is also simple. Make friends here...not enemies. And, although you are so perfect you don't need assistance, one of these days you might. There are SO many generous people here to help you it seems a shame to alienate them the way you are doing. Failing that...go somewhere else.