GoldenOdyssey, If that really is caused by Poser, then you are right that they've done some no-no. But why do you jump to the conclusion that their INTENT is to be controlling? It could be some bizarre programming bug. Hmmm. So it happens even after UNinstall? Then it would have to be something left behind... Ah, because it wasn't EXPECTED to still be there, it was only there temporarily during the registration process. I'll bet if I had access to their source code [I don't], and knew where to look, I could fix it promptly. Did you send in a bug report? I am puzzled by one thing: what does the address bar say when you try to get to a Renderosity page? I mean, does it start with "http://www.renderosity.com", or are you talking about some link embedded in a frame at Curious Labs' web site? -- ToolmakerSteve