"autocrash reinactment" Defined as: What happens with P5 on some users' systems? ;0) As for the original sentiment of the thread, I see no merit nor validity to the views that are presented. All of the items used in the example are but merely resources and tools to facilitate the resultant art. Just as painters do not mix their own paint nor weave their own canvas nor fabricate their own brushes, the Poser artists need not model their own figures to be considered an artist in their own rights. Furthermore, I seriously doubt that the majority of photographers create their own scenes to be photographed; but usually rely upon pre-existing strucures, bnature, people, etc, to create their art. The majority of artforms rely, to some extent, upon pre-fabricated materials in order for the art to be expressed.