I'm also reluctant to buy without a demo, but I probably will eventually. To see some pics that use xenodream stuff in bryce, check out skydancer's site at www.skydancers.com here's a link to an image that uses xenodream stuff. I think she's a beta tester for them so she may be using functionality that's not available yet but I know the height map export works happily with bryce. http://www.skydancers.com/2artpages/2001/12december/juggernaut.html There's more xenodream scattered around in her galleries. While you're there, check out her "copperworld" section if you're into bryce. Some very cool stuff there. Mary