and Agentsmith...talking abt the Win Bryce 5 contest..Agor won tht 'cos of a lot of grass (I'm talking DXF imports here, not inspiration inhales) and I got a second for booleaning my way through ;-) But if somebody had to beat with Bryce 3 it would have to be booleans and terrain editors. But in case you all have seen www.deeptextures.deamon.co.uk, you'd know how kickass Bryce3 can be! Even at 100% Bryce!