Ah boy I wish I had read this thread more earlier. This is for ENTROPIC.....:) You my friend are a major .....ah how can I put this ahhh Bevis Butt Head...nahhhh working for Curious labs are we. I mean how eles could someone put out such mind boggling dribble, and making absolutly no sense what so ever and think to get away with it. Everything Timoteo1 said is factual and very well written. He is correct Poser 5 is nothing more than Poser 4 with some geez whiz gadgets thrown in. That was my initial impression. According to Entropic it's like lets say you go to the garage to get your car worked on and the mech say's I don't know what I'm doing so I'm going to charge you and fix your car but cause more problems than you had before you walked in because I'm learning and need the money and you say ok....geez go for it you pour soul. I mean come on get real is this individual for real or what. Picking on the guy for stating glaring problems within the program and calling it sour grapes or venting is just plain off the wall crazy........