Unlike Mark, I had to actually listen to that jerk, Agnew, say the phrase. I liked Poser's accessibility, it is an 3d program I can actually work. Just about the only one, too. I like the new potentials, but I don't know how much I'm gonna use them-- I'll have to, I suppose. Can anyone tell me how well older Python scripts work in Poser, or has anyone gone that far? What I would really like is better control over the lighting situation-- and a script at Daz promises that-- part of me wishes I'd upgraded to Pro pack instead. Emily