Ooh, Fyre-chan's gonna get flamed. ::dons abestos suit:: Bring it on. The Poser community seems to think that they are divine beings who "cannot possibly make mistakes, so the error must be yours. Yeah." (Cyber-cookies to the first person who can correctly ID that quote.) What do I think of them? Less than ideal, more than... what's the opposite of ideal? Anti-ideal? They come in here and chat up the regs, which is good PR. However, their stories don't always add up. Poser 5 was going to be built from scratch. Obviously not. They've had an extensive beta testing period, but in May or June when someone found something claiming to be a Poser 5 beta on a P2P, they swore there were no external betas yet. (How long did they say Nefti had been playing with the hair room, or is she not external? I dunno.) Even more things they didn't say outright, but insintuated -- such as how the face room, morph putty, and some other features in Poser5 would work. Nothing big, nothing major, possibly even things I've just misunderstood, but enough of them to set off the little bell in the back of my head. I'm not saying they've lied, I'm just saying that I speak a different language than they do (which isn't that surprising, since true Fyrese is pretty rare.) So, what do I think in general? I think they're a company with good PR in some instances (apparently not tech support) but poor business practice overall, as demonstrated by the several months Kupas said they had to go without pay, the fact that Poser 5 was released in it's widely-disappointing state due to a "ship or die" situation, and the registration method that was put in the program despite previous evidence that it was disproportionately hated by their target audience. Unless something changes, I expect them to be out of business by January 2004. But that's just me, and I'm sure my opinions have just made many people mad. Maybe Kupa himself will yell at me, but I doubt I'm that important.