Looks fascinating to me... the interface is reminiscint of the Caligari style in TrueSpace interfaces. [Not neccessarily a plus, but hey - I like TrueSpace] I don't own a Mac, but I'm seriously thinking about getting a copy of Groboto as an XMass gift for a friends kid who does use a Mac, and is interested in 3D and games. The kid also uses the mac version of bryce pretty well, so she might enjoy it for exporting. Btw: "To see some pics that use xenodream stuff in bryce, check out skydancer's site at www.skydancers.com" Has Xenodream gotten an exporter? That's what I've been holding off on before ordering it... You may be correct that she's got some beta functions that haven't been released yet. If so... hopefully that means the next version with obj export is on it's way.

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