I won't deny it -- lordbyron got an impressive likeness there. So under some circumstances, it can be done -- and he says he did it in an hour and a half. But I have to think he was fortunate in having a target that fell close to some morph norms or something. If the red contours won't snap, they won't snap -- plenty of others have posted the same results. Nor will I take back a word about the "pins." I've worked as much as five hours on a project and given up in disgust. But after seeing lordbyron's post -- which I thank you for, Tirjasdyn -- I will try a bunch of different targets, and see if I have just had the bad luck to pick hard ones up till now. (I've been searching the forum, though, and I don't see any other success stories like lordbyron's.) Bill And I urge you: try it yourself. See what you think.