I personally (usually, now that I know how to model) try to model my own objects for a pic, but sometimes what I want is beyond my abilities, or there's something out there that's exactly what I want and far better than I could ever make myself. I'll take that if I need it. There's also the point in exactly how far do you want to take this idea? You could go so far as to say that since you're using Bryce, which was made by talented programmers, which I've often considered an art (but that's a topic for another discussion...) then you're also copping out... It would only be right if you made your own 3d program to create your images... And from that, you could also take it that since the programming language and program was created by someone else... you can see how far this can go.. Put simply, artists have their own preferences, and using tools created by other artists is not cheating, and art is not just a collection of the models.. it's how they're used, arranged, textured, etc. Hell, I've seen a urinal set on its back and signed by an artist called art. (Titled the Fountain.. ick.. art history class is all coming back to me now.. AAAARRGHHH). So while you choose not to use models created by other people, don't think you're "superior" to those people who do. Just look at it as another approach. Of course, this is just my opinion. Umm... Just noticed I'm ranting. I'll stop now. Rosh