You oblivious have never bought a Cadillac!!! No, I haven't- haven't had a car in years so I guess I am "oblivious". But I spent about four times that on our cruising sailboat and they sure weren't interested in teaching me to sail... If you mean that if I don't know how to drive and in buying a Cadillac they will teach me then I am impressed. But I suspect you will agree that this is the exception rather than the rule. On the other hand, if CL charged $30,000+ for P5 then I would expect them to teach me how to use it (grin). - Jack