Yep sorry ilr its getting harder to find the humour in the situation. The whole shambles does make one worry about the future of CL. I know the shipping fiasco was not their fault but one can't help thinking that someone like Adobe would have kicked butt and we'd have had our P5 two weeks ago by chartered flight. I guess if you are running on a shoestring you haven't got that sort of clout. Still got to keep it in perspective_ we aren't going to die through the late delivery of Poser!