I'm a new Poser user and I don't know about the hassles people are complaining of. Yes it does seem slow to render but that is not the biggest hassle for me. (Just assumed my p3 800 was starting to show its age! - 2 yrs next month.) I am having trouble importing objects - most attempts end up as black holes. They just become solid black silhouettes. To get them into Poser I have to send them via an intermediary piece of software and save them as 3ds files. Then I need to set them up in Poser which is where the next hassle occurs. With the grouping editor it would have been nice to have a lasso tool instead of just a drag box. Drag boxes are like trying to write with a brick. Polygon selection could be way better this. As someone who is new to Poser not just Poser 5 I have to say I was fairly surprised at the limited amount of tutorials included in the whole package. The fact that the advertised online tutorials were not made ready for the release of the program is also kinda annoying. Burnart