Quark was smart enough to remove their idiotic copy-protection system in the new Quark 5-Release. 3D-Max R5 will greatly reduce their protection system compared to 3D-Max R4. It seems that Curious Labs will have to learn their lesson the hard way. I certainly won't buy Poser 5 as long as Curious Labs seems to invest more programming into their extremely idiotic protection scheme than in the programm they should have improved - which most certainly has already been hacked by someone, so our friends from the warez-community can use their P5 freely and without any problems. Thanks Curious Labs. You should start reading articles about copyright-protection and programm usability. You most certainly created one of the most annoying and useless copyright-protection-schemes available on the market. Legal users have one hell of a time getting their product registered and usable while hackers have no problems at all. Start investing your time in getting the programm to work correctly. Joerg