This is one of the main reasons I never buy a new release of software until it's been out for a while. I don't want to mess with patches and fixes. I want a fully working program right from the start. Every time you have to reinstall it for whatever reason (hard drive crash, etc.) you have to dig up all the patches and fixes and install them. A waste of time and frustrating. Back when Poser 4 was released by MetaCreations, it was also way premature and was riddled with flaws, and caused a flood of complaints. I just wonder how a company can be proud of a product that is so badly done. It seems that in almost everything nowaways (not just software, but everything) quality of a product and pride in a good job has just gone away. The mass market is just too eager for the $$$ to roll in, I guess. Melanie