It doesn't take a genius to figure out some of the people who used P5 before its release and they may have been beta testers. However I cant blame them for any thing wrong. They very well may have made comments about problems which the company decided to overlook. Also may have worked fine on their system. I know I have beta and alpha tested products before and problems I reported were not fixed before release. I frankly have to applaud them for taking the time to test. I also do not think it proper to release their names for several reasons. This post for one. Ron