I was a beta tester for a few programs (not P5). One of the programs I tested took months and months before they released it. They recruited many people of all skill levels, some from R'osity. They,I think, may still be checking for bugs, months after it's release, to make sure that they've done all they can to make it the best it can be. I wish CL had been as dilligent. I did not run out and buy Poser5. I won't till I'm sure I'm not wasting my money.