I hate you people with fast computers that can handle that.... My pithy PIII 800 has trouble rendering my current project which has a grand total of 1 volumetric cylinder light and one shperical low level light (non-volumretric) to light 134 million polys. Ususally takes 30+ hours to render 800*600 DEFAULT NO AA. Well, something like half those polys are from invisible negative boolean objects. --The LodeRunner