A question-- those who have Athlon and XP and are relatively bug-free, do you have an NVidia card? That has seemed to be the other element that shows up in reported crashes. Those who are crashing with Pentium and XP, do you have NVidia? Just trying to check some rumors. This does seem to be a random situation, but there might be some similarities. And, one of my machines has NVidia and the other doesn't-- haven't loaded P5 yet. I have very bad luck with new software and am already insane, don't need more to push me over the edge. Emily