hi gerald - i played a bit with your first version - here is a small pic, containing two janes. i found some minor issues: the texture's size of her top doesn't fit to the bottom part. the face (esp. nose) has some stretching (only visible at closeups) - no mimic at all, it must be done with the texture. maybe i'll create one. let's see... the sandals are a bit strange and don't fit very well. ok - no more critics - it's great work - i tried different posetta poses, they all work great :) i rendered some other scenes with 6 janes in a group (but not posted here) - a very usefull item. i'll try the new version asap - many thanks :) joe