x2000, good rebuttal, I see your point and re-thought mine. I think that generous content providers should pat themselves on the back for being so cool. It's too bad they don't always get feedback or see results. I know I've committed to "give back" to this community as soon as I'm able ... probably not until I finish school, sigh. Anthony, I'll look for your stuff and if I can make time, will use it and try to let you know if I post it. Frankly my comments were partially to myself. I found myself feeling slightly "hurt" recently when nobody responded to some of my work, and then realized that I couldn't expect people to respond just because I post. Besides, my peers have already seen ten thousand well done dragon pix. I'm not anti-Poser-porn but find it to be mostly boring. Sure, I tried a little when I first got Poser, but ... yawn. It's just not very challenging. I do like many "pinup" renders, you know, teasing and sexy but not really porn. That's fun. When I tried some I was surprised to find that they aren't necessarily easy to do well. Most of all I like work that makes me say "wow ... imagination, talent, and hard work!" no matter what the subject. I guess next time I need an ego fix I'll do nekked Vicky inna temple, and the world will love me.