Thanks to all of you who responded to my original question. I have learned what I originally asked and was even treated to a turorial. For a few years I played with MS Direct Animation making animated OE Stationery. I really enjoyed it. There are many things in the Material Lab that look familiar. I was just at a stone wall with applying the 3 types of textures. I bought Poser 5 as many did because I wanted the additional features and controls. I didn't buy it to make it any easier than P4 to use. Cheers DR

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