Hi LD, I downloaded your haystack too - intending to use it with a little tweaking to make thatch roofs for round huts. That project is sitting on the back burner right now. *** It's long been true around here that T&A is what gets the hits. Of course, with the advent of the Mildragon, we're starting to see fewer people complaining about the over-abundance of NVITWAS (Naked vicky in temple with a sword) as they have a new item to complain about - too many NDIACWFAOH (naked dragon in a cave with fire and/or hoard) pics. Tune in next week to see the latest item for people to bitch about. ;o) *** I know what you mean when talking about hits & comments, if I post a picture here I'm lucky to get even one comment most of the time, even if the hits go over 100. Over at 3DC it's usually about a ratio of 1 comment per 2 or 3 hits - far more encouraging.