Love chedder on cheese burgers but lean towards pan fried limburger. Seems to take care of the dog smells in the house. Dog prefers it over a stinky sock. I am considered a "cheese head" seeing I live one hour from Packer stadium. Sorry to say I've pretty much given up on C1.1 because of a multitude of problems the program is presenting. I seem to spend more time trying to figure out what went wrong than actual modelling. No one can identify the problems so I think it's best to move on to a different program. To bad cause I really thought Carrara was an awsome package as Ray Dream had been. I'll still follow this forum in hopes of finding some fixes and to laugh along with the interesting folks here! I'm out of breath but will try to get the art to the contest. Steve Steve