Oh, I have to add jval, that I particularly loved your 'surreal' gallery since you brought it up (and the fractal women/men are wonderful--I think I've seen those before when following one of the fractal web rings. They slightly remind me of the advertisement for one of the printer companies that shows a herd of zebras and then points out the woman riding the zebra--she has become 'part' of the image. BTW, yours were made BEFORE the ad came out--wonder if they saw yours LOL). Your post just popped up as I replied. Excellent points BTW. Diane B