heyas; anthony, if you plug the wetsuit into the catsuit cr2, open it in poser, then save it to the library, poser will create the 'empty' actors for you. take a look at the cr2 afterwards, and you'll see what i mean. the top actor list has just the 'actor bodypart.' the storage offset and geom stuff just isn't there. the controls section will have all the joint stuff for the 'phantom' body part. this is what causes the parent body parts to be bent correctly and stay (more or less) on the body. the addchild and weld parts of the figure section will be in there, too (although the welds aren't really necessary). the reason you need to 'zero figure' and set the body/hip trans to zero is because you haven't done that before you made the figure conforming. if you zero everything (including the body/hip trans), and memorize the figure, THEN save the cr2, that step is already done. that goes for you to, bob. after you zero everything you MUST memorize the figure, then save it to the library. this is the usual problem when my painlessly easy technique fails to work. usually. ;) then again, maybe you used victoria, which for some reason doesn't seem to respond to this conforming therapy.