I think the CL lost sight of the key feature that made Poser 4 such a success in its target market... EASE OF USE In all the previous releases of Poser, though sometimes less then perfect, did not take a Ph.D. to figure out. I personally do not use high end 3D software because they have such a HUGE learning curve. Looks like P5 has really put itself into that high learning curve! Disappointing... I think I'll wait on the upgrade myself visualkinetics