thanks IB :) I'll try to stick to the topic in future, can't really say much about the review haven't read it, I have seen this type of review before though, in PC games magazines sometimes they get advance copies & review them favourably but when the actual box arrives the program has extra bugs added that weren't there before, it makes the reviewer & program look bad which isn't really fair to either. bm my machine won't even look at the new MS patch, I tried to load it but it just won't take it, probably save me a lot of hassle in the long run anyway.