I was going to try and be nice, but oh well patience are gone. Agamemnon you act as if your gods gift to the 3D world, got news for ya, your works no better then anyone elses here, dosn't take much to impress me, Bonestructure for instance i'm not sure if he makes his own models but some of his stuff is really nice, my father (Harrison2) goes for a extreamly realistic point of view, and I've seen alot of other very nice artists here, none of which have the pompus arogance you have towards everyone else, the point of this forum is to come together on common ground and help each other and show of our work not for you to piss everyone off for no reason other then what seems to be a sick enjoyment out of it, you call everyone here children yet you are the one that acts as such, you used ILM as a example, well and no offence to anyone here but there is one HELL of a diffrence between them and us, you really should brush up on those social skills if ever expect to go anywhere. Small sujestion, keep your mouth shut if you intend to insult everyone. F3nix