MadYuri, I noticed that they only showed R8 "bundles" - the "XL" bundle and "Studio" bundle. Where are you getting prices for this stuff anyway. I haven't seen any except the upgrade pricings in the R8 FAQ? Plus, I'm slightly confused, being totally new to Cinema4D, about the "modules" and the differences between the bundles. Different structuring than v7. Appears that the "Studio" bundle is the big one, the "XL" bundle is next, and then R8 alone is the base software. Is R8 released yet and, if not, what is the tentative date (so that I may make the R7 purchase)? And finally (didn't realize this was an interrogation, did you?), I've noticed that the LightWave renders are, how does one put it, "WoW!!!", while the Cinema4D renders are "Wow!!". Notice the difference. They're not very different in quality, but LWs renders (that I've seen) are more photo-realistic, sometimes to the point of unbelief. Cinema4Ds renders were close, some were photo-realistic, but most still retained that "computery" look. Or is that just me? Is it just a matter of the interface and slower renders on LW that prompts you to prefer C4D? :) Thanks very much, Kuroyume

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