Thanks for the comments. Bloodsong, I think you are right on the memory leak. A bit later, I had the hierarchy editor freeze up on me when I went to scroll down. Use to have this happen in P4, so I started using rambooster. When every Poser got sluggish or one of the interface would freeze, I would do a memory dump and everything would start working again. Think I will try that with P5 and see if it helps. (Oh, btw, came across your P5 tutorials, thanks!!!! :O) Well, I am off again to venture deep into the mysterious, dark, unknowns of Poser 5. So wish me luck, and if I am never heard from again - just remember the movie Jumanji! Cheers,