just my two cents worth about post work ... if the challenge is Bryce.. it should be just that Bryce. Some may just "get by" in Bryce, yet be gods in Photoshop. so they could take that halfazz Bryce scene, import it into Photoshop and make it a "winner". In this case... is the person a Bryce "guru" or a Photoshop "guru". Yes there are some here that could descern that it was "heavily" Photoshopped (sp) but without saying so in their voting... others would think it is a great Bryce image with "some" or no post work. Should the artist fess up with how much post work was done, say that it is 30% Bryce and 70% postwork ? Yes most everyone has some form of "paint" program be it MS Paint, Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro etc. Those with Photoshop would have a great advantage over those with just MS Paint, yet all of us have a version of Bryce, so hence my reasoning for a Bryce only contest, no post work. As to importation of textures... ummm.... all would have the same advantage there, the ability to import a texture. Then again... a "guru" should be able to utilitze and tweek the texture lab to create the texture that they need. In the Rhino forum... we do just that for the Rhino modeling challenges... 100% Rhino for the modeling. You can show a "textured" version, but to enter the challenge, you MUST enter a gray scale image of your model. This shows the modeling skill of the individual, not their ability to texture. The model can be imported into another program to render, but it still must be gray scale image of the model.