humorix, First of all, A dicussion is not a fight. Second a discussion is not a war. If you want to unilaterally escalate it to such, that's on you. We should be able to discuss this in a proper manner without resorting to prsonal insult or feelings getting hurt, but apparently it's not gonna happen so I'll stand on what I have said already and hang back and listen. It is not my intent to enter into a flame war with anyone, only to offer a divergent viewepoint. That thing about cheese was a little over the line though. Bikermice only use cheese on Pizza ant then only when lotta beer is handy to wash it down with. on Mars it must be Monday, - TJ.