from Amazon.com "The Poser 5 Handbook (Graphics Series)by Shamms Mortier" "This item will be published in November 2002. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives" I love the effort that went into the Reference Manual, however I'm using it as that, a reference. So much to learn, hopefully come Nov. there will be another Xmas present. Didn't know if others had seen this listed, so I thought I'd post.