Some good thought are being put forward, and that is all I was really after. Focusing a little attention and concern on an issue that I feel needs to be addressed. I am not looking to bash CL or anyone who might have had a hand in writing the manual, so I hope we can continue in the spirit of problem-solving and not start choosing up sides and pointing fingers of blame. That will not solve anything. CL needs some feedback from us - the end-user - apparantly as to what we need in the way of instruction in order to get the most bang for our buck out of P5. I realize that there is no way everything can be covered, but perhaps some basics features need to be looked at in more detail. To illustrate my point, take the example that sparked this thread. The little exercise on page 66, and the missing jpg file. Even if you supplement your own jpg file for the one missing, can you follow the example given there and get it to work? I couldn't. The only way I could get a reflection was to add an extra node - a step not given in the example. I had to insert the light/reflect node before the image map. This took me 30 minute longer to figure out than should have been necessary. And, I still do not know if what I am doing is the right way or not. I do get a reflection, but why does things like transmapped hair not render right? Is that really a bug? (One that the beta testes somehow missed?) , or am I just missing an important step somewhere? ~shrug~ So, I state the need for more detailed instructions.