pix, thanks for all that I'm glad to here V2 runs smoothly on your machine. About the Dell you mentioned, and I'm sure it's not the name brand but I'm running C1.1 on a loaded Dell/WinXP and am completely frustrated. All other programs seem to run fine. I'm submitting to the contest today with an unfinished piece. There was so much I wanted to do with it but couldn't. Thanks again, SET