madmax, Regarding Poser I couldn't agree more. Poser Does not allow you to create your oun meshes, but lets remember that the more categories we have, the smaller the prizes are likely to be. I hear that Animotions was giving away a free copy of P5 to the winner and 5.00 DAZ gift certificates just for entering. How they got the sponsers to be so generous I don't know, but we can't expect as much here as Brycers are a much smaller community than Posers. we should try to find a way to limit catagories. Agent Smith, did the cookies have raisins in them. Living in Fresno I HAD to ask. we have now broken 100 replies(2500 to go.), - TJ