How long or how hard someone worked to produce something has absolutely no bearing on whether I like it or not. 5 minutes or 5 years, the result must stand on its own merits. Having said that, I love the Victoria model. Her face, her body seem much more realistic to me and therefore more beautiful. Because she's not real I couldn't care less about genitals but dearly want some facial morphs. Bottom line: for 60 bucks I've got a very attractive woman who will pose endlessly for me without complaint. I just got her last night but here's my first Victoria doodle. http://www.fractalus.com/jack/stuff/victoria.html - Jack