CyberStretch I did misunderstand your point. Sorry. Now I understand and definately agree. I tend to burn all my updates off onto CD anyway after I get them so if my hard drive fails I have access to the files when I have to reinstall. (Get the idea I've been there before?) But for those not in the same position then the CD would be a good idea. Just as long as we still get access to the updates online while they produce them - then I'll be happy little camper down under :) Guarie