It is certainly a pitty Poser 4 didn't come with Poser 5 Content Distribution Section D, or G... but again I can see why they are included now. I think (if memory does me correct) it comes down to what is a program and what is documentation. I think that was the arguement used in Paramounts case against Fan-Sites, was that the content of the websites were in conflict with their copyright rights. I feel for ya Kupa - must be a pain when you have to face these issues... that is when I start programming for money I'm going to create programs that no one wants. In fact they will be that unwanted even warez groups will ignore them :) I know there is a flaw in that thinking somewhere - I just haven't figure it out yet :)