Is poser "reference" material anymore. It seems to me Poser art is a direct part of the end product. How may Poserites Pose their scence(s) and then paint/draw them? Everthing I've seen uses Poser (and Bryce, Vue, etc), to create a direct image, not as a artist reference. I'm sure there are people who do(I',m one of them), but I don't think that is the main market anymore. Look at Renderosity, Daz, etc, they don't seem to be selling "reference" material.