My current entry was rendered in max quality 800x600 and came to 460 something meg. I found that if I open my entries in Paintshop and resave even without doing anything it cuts the filesize to roughly 1/3rd each time. I can't tell the difference between the original and saved versions. Even though my first file technically qualified The bryce render took up more filesize. If I'm only using 16-bit mats on my surfaces a 32-bit true color render is not going to buy me much. Most human eyes can't differentiate between a few thousand colors let alone several million. I doubt that many people could even tell if their entries were scaled by 10% unless there was some aliasing introduced. I remember being on a netcom dialup line that was only passing 700bytes /min. Thank God I don't have that problem now, but some do. If only the first inch of the image loads after a minute I kill the download and move on to the next. And I won't vote for it based on the thumbnail. Limiting your filesize is in your own interest as well as the servers.