Oh, and I forgot to mention...why wouldn't you just want to video a fireplace and use the avi? Also, I'm playing with the colors and getting other effects going. If someone wants to try them out, like mapped to a sphere inside a transparent sphere or something and let me know if I might continue this route? I can get those effects easily within Lightwave, but I know there may be some users trying to do things with fire within Poser 5, and go a slightly different route, so I'd like to make some fire and smoke effects things available in the marketplace. If not, I'll just tromp back to my cave and cook my marshmallows alone. Just check the site to see if I'm onto anything useful. Heh, lemme know sumpin'k?