I agree with you, Darth and Allie: A counter figure will be the best solution, for several reasons: 1. Everyone in the community can do his/her best to add to the figure. 2. We can focus on solving our well-known problems, not being dependant on some marketing guy who will tell us what is worth doing. 3. We can continuously enhance the figure. 4. It will be for FREE!!! I'm using Poser as a hobby, and I'm NOT going to buy any models unless I urgently need to. Some logistic questions are yet to be solved: 1. Who can coordinate the project? A web site with a progress report would be great. 2. Who can host the files that the team members are providing? 3. Can we join existing models together? (Evolution woman, real eyes, etc.) 4. What about the clothing? Will we still be able to use the (lots of) P4Fem clothing? Do we have to modify their settings (umph)? Do we have to create entirely new clothes (arrgghh)? Maybe we should start a new thread on this one...