Hmm, curiouser and curiouser... Looks like you opened an old can of worms KiDAcE ;) Yes Spanki I'd definately aggree that in two out of the three faces (right and top) the white looks positive while the black looks negative. As for the difference in heights, yes I agree there too, but that would be caused if the grey is darker than 50% (I can't tell from the picture, what's the values?) I will try this myself when I get home (using pro pack). It would seem this has never been thoroughly tested has it (different platforms, setups etc.)? Its probably not going to grab people's interest now with Poser 5 seeming to take all the focus around here now.